I dont agree with suicide, but I dont know if its an easy way out.... holding a gun to your own head (or any of the other ways) can't be too easy. Definatly stupid, but maybe not easy.

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People who are suicidal, rather than killing themselves with a sure-fire way, should simply be more riskier in life. That way, either their life will improve as they learn to take the necessary risks, or they die from the risks. Win-win situation.

Crazy llama 96: what i meant about it being an easy way out is that instead of finding a solution to the problems they have or at least trying to face it, they just try to kill themselves to escape from it. They rarely think about the consequenses of what will happen to the people they love and to the people who loves them. Anyway as you said its a truly stupid way of "solving" problems. I think that most people who commit suicide are selfish bastards, they are the types of people only concerned with their own selves, thinking that they are the only people who has problems.

Super Baby: Yeah i think that a nice solution to this sort of problem. Most of the people who try to kill theselves only do it to get attention, these are the people who should probably do this. For the other 3-4 percent who really want to kill temselves thogh i dont think that this is someting they would even consider, since they want to ecape from their problems as fast as they can. anyway i like the way you think.

I have been contemplating suicide for while now. As each day passes I feel I have failed, but tomorrow is another day. I do not want my death to be violent, with other people cleaning up the mess left behind, rather I want it to be quiet and unknown.
My wife of 30 years knows nothing of my desire, I am not a moody person, more outgoing and cheerful, inside of me has had enough. Marilyn, my wife suffers with constant migraines which lasts for three or four days each time, usually every ten days or so. She has never tried to combat the headaches herself, she just goes to bed for the full period and never ever tried to do her daily schedule. She relies on medication which has never worked.
We cannot make any future plans, book a plane,train, or buy any type of ticket before hand, we miss out on trips with friends, dinner parties, you name it, we'll miss it. John

John, is this the first time you've told anyone about these feeling you've been having? I'm worried about you, dude. Having been there myself I can honestly say I know how you're feeling....will you please email me? dharmagirl69@yahoo.com . I promise I'm not going to judge you or tell you you're stupid for feeling that way..like I said, I've been there. You feel like you have a face that you show everyone else, a shell to present to the world...but inside there's just nothing left. No you, not hope, no desire, no...nothing...?

I'd like to help if I can, even if I just lend a symapthetic ear.

John, I think you should try to convince your wife to try meditation. Im pretty sure that it would help her to some degree. Even though migrains are different compared to headaches, im sure it would still give her some relief. as for what you are contemplating, it is your choice. you are the only person who can ever know your problems, those things that you have to face whenever you wake up. ill just leave you with a question. Would killing yourself really solve your problems? Think this through.

hi,
I totally agree to your statement. But i am in a situation where i am failing ... I have not got sucess. I worked for six months for test i failed. I am looking for job result failure. Then you feel what is it. What should i do......... I hate sucide. but then to live life like losser makes me pissed..........

The largest majority of people who commit or attempt suicide are suffering from a serious medical condition called severe clinical depression. My father dies of suicide due to this condition and I inherited it from him.

Yes, I have considered it in the past. I sought medical help instead. Probably because that's what killed my father. I recognized the symptoms in myself which is not always easy to do becasue the illness affects reason and judgement. I was lucky enough to get treatment.

This illness is caused by a chemical imbalance. It's a physical illness. Would you be so judgemental of a person who has diabetes or high blood pressure?

What I think is - yes it may be stupid way out - but it's a way out. Sometimes it's better to do one last stupid thing than continie doing hundreds stupid things. For several years I've been doing something really stupid like gambling - I can't say I've lost a fortune but lost considerable amount of money - in fact I spent all my money. But this is not the main problem. The real hell begun when my relatives learned about it. The real problem is not to see a future ahead. Then what is more stupid?

I have seen the results of suicide on the families and friends left behind.

The mother who returned her grandchildren home after a visit ....and they all walked in to find her son and their father ..who had hung himself.

The wife who had an argument with her husband because he had cheated on her and came home to find his head splattered all over the room.

A husband who's wife had gassed herself in the car.

No matter how bad things get ..there is NO JUSTIFICATION ..for putting the people you supposedly love through the anguish and horror and feelings of self loathing these people go through. They spend the rest of their lives hating themselves for failing the person they love.

Maybe people who have attempted suicide should be made to work with people who are suffering a terminal illness ...they might realise how important life and loved ones are.
AND how unimportant the things we stress about and worry about and consider we have failed in, really are.

Jess

There always is a future if you want one. Money is always replaceable.
The only way that suicide would be a justifiable option for me is: I'm going to die painfully from some illness or I'm in prison and probably going to face a lifetime of suffering. As long as you have your health and loved ones, then suicide's stupid.

When shit hits the fan, I hit back. There's no reason you should just lie down and let life mow you over. Screw that.

-- B

I have posted it before when the subject was suicide, and I will post it again.

Rush-"The Pass"
Lyrics by Neil Peart

Proud swagger out of the school yard
Waiting for the world's applause
Rebel without a conscience
Martyr without a cause

Static on your frequency
Electrical storm in your veins
Raging at unreachable glory
Straining at invisible chains

And now you're trembling on a rocky ledge
Staring down into a heartless sea
Can't face life on a razor's edge
Nothing's what you thought it would be

All of us get lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars
All of us do time in the gutter
Dreamers turn to look at the cars
Turn around and turn around and turn around
Turn around and walk the razor's edge
Don't turn your back
And slam the door on me

It's not as if this barricade
Blocks the only road
It's not as if you're all alone
In wanting to explode

Someone set a bad example
Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior
Who lost the will to fight

And now you're trembling on a rocky ledge
Staring down into a heartless sea
Done with life on a razor's edge
Nothing's what you thought it would be

No hero in your tragedy
No daring in your escape
No salutes for your surrender
Nothing noble in your fate
Christ, what have you done?

Hello. (Im from finland, so my english aint great)
Sight..
Couple of years now i have been thinking about leaving this world.. wild things came to my mind.. I have been thinking about moving in some monk monastary or so..
heh.. well.. i feel that every other life would be better than mine..
well.. how did i start feel like this.. couple years earlier i had this girl..(yep. always there is a girl)
our relationship was short.. one week.. no more or no less..
he totally dumped me.. yep (like always)
i haven't had any alcoholical problems etc.. just these thoughts..
i have been talking with friends alot.. heck.. i have been talking with different psychiatrist's too..
im taking pills to my depression at this moment..

in these two years i have been scaring about getting any close relationship with some girl's.. well i have been talking with some.. it just frightens me. .
well.. how did i found this place?
i searched google for easy way to kill myself.
sight..
well.. maby i dont like about thought killing myself.. but i would like to go some other place.. like Himalayas.. heh..

well well.. thanks..

sincerely yours.
Me.

I have seen the results of suicide on the families and friends left behind.

gothic impulse: I too have dealt with far too many that I love who have taken this route.

there is NO JUSTIFICATION

We are told early on in life that suicide is NOT an answer, that it is wrong, a sin, a weak way out yadda, yadda. No matter what cliche` you use, the outcome is the same.
Everyone who has ever walked this earth has been given experiences in their lives that caused them to say, I can't take this amymore, no one should have to live like this, but for the most part, they DO get through it. No matter how bad it gets, how much it hurts, how unfair it seems or alone it feels, suicide will NOT make it go away. Realisticly, it gets much worse. For those you have just left behind. Yes we have all heard that before, well heed to it IT DOES!!!!!!

John and Amito: I really do not know how much more I could say that others wiil not have already said or say, but I am here to tell you that there is no way I beleive that either one of you has a reason to believe that ANYONE would be better off without you. That you wouldn't leave a mess behind, or answer you self-worth question(ya know, "failing at everything it seems). I will show you an illustration of the outcome of giving into these feelings.....

I am FAILING at EVERYTHING in my life and have been for several months. A mother of four, on the streets(homeless) for almost 2 months now. I was on treatments which my doctors have recently seazed becouse I am not ressponding to them. I suffer migranes, diabeties, epilepsy, MS and of course my terminal illness. I am a piss poor excuse for a mother, wife and woman at this point. Can not take care of family, home, health or anything. I am a useless shell of a human right now.....Notice I said RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
You know, my list could go on, and so could thousands of others but that means nothing, we all are tired. There has to be something strong enough in your will to help you to see that, there is someone sitting next to you, reaching out to you, feeling you, right next to you, and they have it worse than you, yet you need them. They need to be there for you, and they need you to believe that you can make it. Yes, there are mentical conditions that are much of the cause of this type of feeling, I was told way back in the early 70's that I was manic depressive, (long before every tear you shed meant you were so), and yes I played with the idea of vanishing my pain (physically, mentally and emotionally) but I cant. I just can't. Not for myself, or my family or what ever, I just cant. I want to see that I got threw it AGAIN and I want to see how it all turns out!!!!!!!!
Won't the two of you and any other, lean on those who are willing to be there for you and help you through whatever they can. I am certain that you WILL get throught these rough areas and you will be happy to see that the outcome is livable.